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I’m sorry but this is a horribly informed review and ought to be taken down to prevent risk to readers. As a long- term Kratom user who considers it a wonder herb for treatment of depression, anxiety, fatigue, low motivation, and insomnia your recommended dosages are way too high- for someone with no tolerance, a dose of 10 g is very likely to induce nausea and vomiting. Unless you work up to it a dose of 15 g would do the same to a daily user of ~30 g over 4+ years such as myself; 2 g could be considered nootropic but even that is a stretch and 5 g is about the threshold from stimulating to sedative. I find it is most effective in several smaller doses throughout the day for the relief of the aforementioned ailments. Furthermore it decreases libido, male sexual performance, and restfulness of sleep if taken immediately before sexual activity or bedtime. I have tried Kratom from numerous sources and am certain these generalizations hold true for any reputable vendor; I currently buy my highest quality Kratom directly from a Malaysian wholesaler. I have trusted your website for information regarding various nootropics but unfortunately I can’t do that anymore after reading this review.
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your concerns, but nothing in this article should be considered a recommendation of a dosage, nor is the goal of the article to recommend that new users start with a 10 g dosage. Certainly, new users will experience significantly stronger effects and in the case of all supplements, starting with the threshhold dosage is the best way to determine efficacy and individual sensitivity levels.
These dosages are based on the information provided in the well-respected Sage Wisdom guide to Kratom use. I am comfortable continuing to cite this resource: http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html
I have to agree with many of Gary Sloan’s points, especially the one about 10+ g inducing nausea and vomiting in someone with no tolerance. As a matter of fact, for those that have done their kratom research, it is well known that alkaloid profiles vary between strains (slow, medium, fast, for instance) and each strain will have a unique effect that widely fluctuates depending on diet, weight, tendency towards anxiety, etc.
I would also add that Sage Wisdom (Daniel Siebert’s site) is in no way a reliable resource. With all due respect to Mr. Siebert, he is the world’s leading expert in Salvia Divinorum, NOT kratom. His site does trade in ethno-botanicals and kratom is one of the items offered for sale. His dosage recommendations, however, are off the wall and reflect, if anything, tolerances exhibited by long-term users if not chronic ones. The only other explanation for his dosage ranges are the extreme weakness of strains that he has used and / or offers.
I also find it inappropriate to include kratom in the nootropic category. Even in strains with a stimulating profile, it always has the “opiate glow” in the background and its potential to “motivate” is highly exaggerated, in my honest opinion. Fast strains such as Maeng Da are stimulating / motivating if you are into manual labor or tasks requiring low levels of cognitive complexity. Don’t expect kratom to be your ally, however, if you are engaged in highly cerebral activities. It is, after all, a mild opiate. I have yet to hear of any high successful CEOs or “movers and shakers” including kratom in their daily regime. Such types (in Silicon Valley, for instance) are much bigger fans of a well balanced nootropic stack centering around racetams and, occasionally, anxiolytics such as Aniracetam, Picamilon, and Phenibut (the latter of which is extremely powerful and potentially addicting).
As far as kratom dosage is concerned, I get stimulating effects with 250-500mg of high quality fast strains and already at 1g, I’m nodding off from profound sedative effects. And I am a 6’2″, 200 lbs healthy male. Please keep this in mind. The author of this article should re-think his sources and any readers should always temper any opinions they find online with a healthy helping of good research and common sense. If you are new to this plant, start with no more than 500mg, regardless of strain, to test the waters. As a matter of fact, I used Sage Wisdom’s dosing advice my first time around with a slow strain and ended up having a full blown panic attack with labored breathing and chest pains. Please keep this in mind when experimenting. If you need 3+ g to feel something from kratom, you are definitely using a poor source. 3g should be strong for ANY first-time user. Good health to you and stay safe!
Are you using Kratom extracts or standard Kratom powder? Dosages in this article are based on standard powder made by crushing and grinding the raw leaves, as opposed to enhanced products that process the leaves to extract active compounds. In my experience, effects are negligible from 500 mg of Kratom powder, though 500 mg of Kratom extract will produce effects. I just want to clarify what source you are using.
Your reccomendation for a sedative dosage is way too high. Unless your kratom is leeched of alkaloids 8-10 will do just fine. A quality sedative strain of kratom ( red vein ) has me nodding off at the suggested dosage or lower. I have been consuming kratom for over 2 1/2 years.
Recommended dosages are a bit too high in my opinion. The sweet spot for most people is around 5 grams. Higher dosages are obviously more notorious for sedation. Not a bad article overall though.
I have been experimenting with kratom due to the fact that I have arthritis, high blood pressure, and a very hard time getting to sleep from the arthritis pain (it gets worse at night when my body is starting to relax) not to mention the stress and anxiety I have because every doctor I have gone to told me that I can’t use the OTC pain relievers anymore because the tylenol is tearing up my liver, the nsaids and ibuprophen elevate my b.p. to extremely dangerous levels no to mention that they are eating up my stomach lining. They will not give me anything because they are afraid of me getting addicted to a medication that I will need for the rest of my life….(makes a whole lot of sence!) The blood pressure meds. are dangerous calcium channel blockers ( I have problems with my bones so they block the calcium in my blood at the cellular level which is also known to be carcinogenic) and they give me beta blockers… both make me extremely dizzy and like there is someone in my body and it’s not me.
I have been taking kratom for the past 3 months I started out with these 20x capsules. I thought that kratom was a farce I got absolutely no results from these pills which I started at 2 pills = 1 gram, then a few hours later 4 pills =2 gram..etc….
Then I started really doing research and trial and error and found that kratom needs to be taken as a whole, it seems that the chain of alkaloids are dependent on each other to function. I purchased 10 grams of Red Bali powder, put it in #00 gel caps. at 1/2 gram per pill, and started out with a 3 gram dose, I felt some relief. I then took 4 grams the following night….. well it brought me to the ideal dose for me is 7 grams at night and 4 grams in the morning. I get the pain relief and the sedation effect and I haven’t had a more restful night since I can remember. In the morning as soon as I wake up I take my 4 grams and I get the happy energetic feeling along with the benefits of the pain relief ! I also quit taking those miserable meds. for my b,p,, it has been staying closer to 120/80 than with those horrible prescription pills. I do not get the dizzy spells or feel that I’m about to black-out. I switch strains of kratom daily in order to prevent a tolerance (it seems to be working, I don’t need more to get the relief I desire and it’s 3 months!)
So this is a wonder herb, I would refrain from calling it a drug because Uncle Sam and the big Pharmaceutical business are already trying to find ways to make people like me suffer at their hand in the name of money. And you idiots who are looking for a high from kratom, well your looking in the wrong place!!! Yeah I get a high from kratom, not a drug induced stupor, but a happy euphoria from not being in agonizing constant pain, Now that is a real high! So go ahead and take some real high doses of it, and I hope you puke your brains out (if you have any), because that is all that happens when you abuse kratom. Please quit labeling it as a “legal high”….. there is no such thing, If you want to get high smoke pot! That is another herb God gave us that has a lot more uses than just recreation and it took this ignorant bunch of geniuses 200 years to figure out what people have known for centuries, so don’t ruin this one. Let’s be smarter than those educated idiots and don’t give those bastards any reason to outlaw something so harmless and valuable.